“Learning is about lighting that fire”, says Dr Tawnya Means, an educational specialist who has years of experience in online teaching and learning. In this interview, she talks about how online learning can add to the educational experience by increasing student engagement and interaction. In today’s interview, she shows how using muddy-clear blogposts can increase student involvement and also explains why the idea of “digital natives” is a myth. Her goal? To show how an educational experience can end not in a final exam that shuts doors but in an epic finale that opens them. Along the way she addresses academic integrity and making the online experience more engaging.